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Alexis Hall Interview – 'Looking for Group' – InBetweenDrafts

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Alexis Hall Interview – 'Looking for Group' – InBetweenDrafts

Alexis Hall is a prolific creator, dabbling in a large number of genres, eras, and tones all through his eclectic profession whereas delivering heartfelt LGBTQ+ tales. Having risen to a brand new kind of fame with the discharge of his rom-com, Boyfriend Materials, he’s since delivered a plethora of partaking new titles whereas concurrently opening the door to a wealthy again catalog.

A few of which, such because the Spires collection (together with the aforementioned Glitterland, For Actual, Pansies, and Ready for the Flood) have acquired new, up to date reprints. The re-releases provide up to date covers and bonus materials for each new and returning followers. Now, earlier than the discharge of his newest within the Winner Bakes All collection, Audrey Lane Stirs the Pot in December and the unique Moby Dick retelling Hell’s Coronary heart in 2026, comes the re-launch of the New Grownup novel, Wanting for Group. The ebook follows Drew, a “proper kind of nerd” who, whereas enjoying the largest MMORPG referred to as Heroes of Legend, finally ends up falling for one other participant.

Alexis Hall delivers introspective and considerate escapism.

His writing is so magnetic as a result of it manages to marry this pretty, accessible but wealthy prose with deeply developed characters and dense ensembles who construct out any of his present worlds. There’s levity in his work – there are few authors who make me snort out loud fairly as a lot. However he doesn’t eschew depth.

A love letter to MMORPGs that validates the need of digital areas and the variability of people that have interaction with them, Wanting For Group is one more occasion the place Hall absolutely immerses us into each the particularities of this world and the boundless methods by which we join to 1 one other.

We spoke to Hall concerning the inspiration behind Wanting for Group, the need for digital areas, and how you can write humorous dialogue.


Might you discuss somewhat bit about what first impressed Wanting for Group?

So, to dig deep, deep into the weeds on this one, on the time, my then-writer was trying for books to take to an LGBTQ+ gaming conference, which I believe was referred to as GaymerCon. It was additionally form of impressed by the favored-at-the-time Felicia Day net collection The Guild.

I believe it was additionally kind of, for those who like, negatively impressed by numerous the discourse round MMORPGs on the time. Just about everytime you noticed any description of gaming again within the day, it was within the context of “WHAT IS THIS SAD FREAK LOSER THING THAT THESE SAD FREAK LOSERS DO AND WHO ARE THE SAD FREAK LOSERS WHO DO IT.” So I wished to put in writing a ebook about players that directly rejected but additionally to some extent confronted that notion. There’s a motive that Drew has “not like different players” as a core a part of his self-identification.

When writing, is it typically a personality that comes first? Or is it a selected thought or setting that conjures up you?

I’m unsure it’s a lot a very first thing as it’s a…concurrent-but-iterative factor. I’m conscious that numerous authors can have these very memorable, very impactful tales the place they’re like “after which I noticed this particular person in a dream,” however I’ve by no means been like that. So for me it at all times begins with one thing perilously near an elevator pitch or a submit-it-observe abstract (“write one thing set in an MMORPG”). From there it goes to who the characters is likely to be in broad phrases (“what kind of particular person can be in a love story set in an MMORPG”) after which that loops again to the idea (“what kind of MMORPG-based mostly story most closely fits this sort of particular person”) and so forth and so forth. I assume it’s kind of the ouroboros strategy to ebook planning.

What was it about interactive, digital gaming that you simply discovered fascinating as a setting for a romance?

Partly, it’s simply that I are likely to assume kind of something is fascinating as a setting for a romance. It’s kind of an occupational hazard of being a author that something even remotely notable will get put in your “doable factor to put in writing a ebook about” field, whether or not that’s an individual with a mildly uncommon job, a selected sphere that individuals work together in, or a online game. I’m additionally only a whole nerd who loves video video games.

The ebook understands the connective nature of forming relationships by way of on-line areas. What you in that perspective, and the way essential do you assume it’s to focus on it?

I’m at all times a bit uncomfortable with questions like “how essential do you assume X is” as a result of my interior Brit is scared of sounding like I remotely assume I or my work are in any manner essential. However I do assume that digital areas have turn into increasingly part of how we reside our lives over the oh-my-god-is-it-an-precise-decade since LFG first got here out, and I do assume we’re typically fairly dangerous at interrogating them.

I’ll say that in some methods it’s been actually fascinating to return and have a look at what options of on-line interactions have modified radically for the reason that early 2010s and which have stayed oddly the identical. On the time I wrote the ebook, the entire thought of courting any person you met (dun dun dunnn!) on the web was this enormous, bizarre, scary factor. Whereas now, we reside in a world the place everyone needed to spend two years interacting solely by way of Zoom, and courting apps are usually the default manner for individuals to fulfill individuals.

And likewise, social media firms form of run the universe now, so there’s that.

Have been there any new challenges to writing Wanting for Group that you simply hadn’t confronted in any of your earlier writing?

On the one hand, it was a full decade in the past, so I can’t solely bear in mind. However…yeah, numerous the ebook is ready in a online game, and half the dialogue is chat logs. Though actually (and perhaps that is simply rose-tinted hindsight or no matter), I don’t keep in mind that really being an excessive amount of of a problem. It’s totally different, however I’m at all times firmly of the opinion that the bits of writing which are most tough are the bits which are most boring.

The instance I at all times give for the little bit of writing I discover hardest is “getting a personality go from the door to the window”, as a result of it’s good to convey “X walked from the door to the window” in a manner that isn’t completely prosaic but additionally isn’t completely intrusive and in addition isn’t clunky and in addition isn’t going to introduce echoes or repetitions that make different bits sound clunky.

By comparability, writing dialogues by which characters had been speaking half in textual content and half in voice, and infrequently having each public-dealing with and personal conversations unexpectedly, was fairly easy. If nothing else, it’s all dialogue (albeit nonstandard dialogue), and I typically discover dialogue rather a lot simpler to work with anyway.

I’ve solely performed one MMO (World of Warcraft) earlier than, however I can perceive how the style can be conducive to world-constructing. Was there ever one other style or a selected recreation that you simply assume you’d be keen on writing about?

A number of really. For some time, I kicked across the thought of doing one thing set on the earth of aggressive card gaming, both for a digital-solely recreation (Completely Not Hearthstone) or a paper-first recreation (Completely Not Magic The Gathering), however I ran up in opposition to the tiny concern that I don’t really know very a lot about these worlds.

The one I’d actually love to do, both as a comfortable-sequel to LFG or simply as a down-the-line perhaps-some-day venture, is one set in a tabletop RPG. Again after I wrote LFG tabletop roleplaying was if something much more of an obscure area of interest pastime than MMORPGs however clearly since then there’s been Stranger Issues and Vital Function and the D&D increase (I’m not even certain if fifth version was out after I was engaged on LFG) so it’d really make much more sense to a contemporary viewers.

What was probably the most essential component to you when creating Drew and Package as characters?

I believe, just like the what-comes-first query, there’s an extent to which this one doesn’t have a single reply. But when I needed to boil it all the way down to a single core component, I believe what I’d say is that I knew I wished to put in writing a gaming romance the place the gaming wasn’t peripheral. It was as a lot on the coronary heart of the romantic dynamic as “grumpy sunshine” or “he’s a rake, she’s a governess”.

So, in a manner, what was most essential to nail down was the core concern of how Drew and Package work together with video games, and what that suggests about them as individuals, how that interprets to their exterior-the-recreation life. Mainly, Drew is what the Magic group would name a Spike (he views gaming as about demonstrating mastery), whereas Package is extra of a Timmy/Johnny (he’s about self-expression and private experiences). And their complete dynamic form of grows out of that.

You’ve had youthful, teenage characters earlier than, however Wanting for Group exists within the New Grownup style. You write such an array of characters and genres, was there a selected motive why you wished to inform this story by way of this age group?

Embarrassingly, I’m not completely certain I bear in mind. I believe a giant a part of it’s simply that it was the early 2010s, and I’m unsure the world was prepared at the moment for a gamer character who was over 22. The overwhelming picture of players again then was summed up by that one bit from this 2000s procedural present Life the place a drug vendor has hidden their drug information (I don’t know both) inside a duplicate of Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones and so they need to enlist any person’s teenage child to get to “stage 10” with a purpose to unlock them.

On condition that the ebook was already asking the non-gaming aspect of its viewers to just accept a ton of latest ideas and vocabulary (the glossary was a late addition requested by the writer), asking them additionally to just accept that no, really, some players actually are adults with jobs may need simply been an excessive amount of of a leap on the time.

On prime of that, there have been additionally some sensible concerns; the protagonists needed to be individuals who had sufficient free time to be closely concerned in MMO raiding, and needed to be at a stage in life the place they’d be cool with assembly up with any person they met enjoying a online game on the web. On the time, all that skewed youthful to me.

Plus, there’s the truth that, on a meta stage, the entire RPG arc is form of about exploration, private progress, and discovery, which form of makes it thematic match for a narrative about that stage of life particularly.

Or one thing. As I say, it was a very long time in the past.

Just like the re-releases of the Spires collection – how is it, or, as a substitute, how has it been watching a ebook written years prior acquire new life and followers?

It’s been nice. Bizarre, however nice. I’m unsure I can say way more than that.

You’ve talked about the thought of Wanting For Group being about discovering a group. Are you able to focus on that side and the significance of permitting that group to be a gaming group? I really feel like how we discuss gaming has modified, presumably since COVID. As a result of for some time, it was one of the crucial speedy methods we may hang around with individuals nearly (the Animal Crossing section).

I agree attitudes to gaming have modified rather a lot, partly due to COVID, partly as a result of we’re properly into the period the place millennials and even older GenZ-ers are the grownups with jobs. So, persevering with to fake, as a tradition, that the one individuals who know what a Mario is are slacker teenagers dwelling of their mother and father’ basements is getting more and more untenable.

On the time, although, there was actually numerous scaremongering about on-line interactions typically and gaming particularly. Which, looking back, wasn’t in any respect the kind of factor we must always have been frightened about (see above re: social media firms rule the universe now).

One of many issues I used to be very acutely aware of on the time I used to be engaged on LFG, to the extent that it’s addressed explicitly within the textual content of the ebook, is that there was numerous discuss “gaming dependancy.” And don’t get me flawed, addictive behaviors are an actual factor and gaming typically is ready as much as exploit individuals with addictive personalities (see loot bins.) However, on the time there was an inclination to label any manner of interacting with video video games that wasn’t culturally normalized as “dependancy”, which I believe was genuinely dangerous.

I’m a giant believer within the loss of life of the creator and I don’t like to inform individuals how you can interpret my books, however one of many issues I do discover genuinely unusual about reactions to LFG is how many individuals appear to genuinely assume that Package has a problem with gaming dependancy when, from my perspective, the purpose is that he form of doesn’t, it’s simply that his buddies and his hobbies are all accessed by way of a digital area.

One thing I’ve observed all through your collection is how cooking for individuals and gaming (whether or not off-hand or in any other case) have come up in many of the trendy set ones. Is there a motive these parts come up, or do you assume it’s simply pure for the world they’re set in?

I’m a easy particular person: I like gaming and I like meals. The meals stuff, particularly, I completely do assume is simply pure for any world the place (checks notes) individuals eat issues. The video games stuff is extra of a…private quirk, I assume? I discover play as a really broad idea worthwhile, and I believe how individuals act in a play context, whether or not that’s gaming, board gaming, or simply mucking about, will be actually illustrative. And in the end, illustrating how individuals work together with one another is form of my job.

I not too long ago learn 10 Issues That By no means Occurred and was frequently laughing aloud. Do you assume there’s a key ingredient to writing humorous dialogue? And, on that observe, are there any authors that you simply learn when it’s good to snort?

I don’t assume I’ve a magic system for writing humorous dialogue, however typically, I believe for all X, the important thing to being good at X is to take X critically. And I do attempt to take humor critically. There’s normally some extent through the enhancing of a ebook the place I’ll undergo the complete factor because it presently exists and make notes for tweaks and modifications, and whereas numerous these tweaks and modifications are issues like “this comma appears to be like prefer it’s within the flawed place” or “this wants a dialogue tag”, very often the tweak will likely be one thing like “is there a joke right here?” Very often, you’ll be able to have a look at the general form of a line and see that there’s a manner it might be made humorous, and it simply turns into a matter of (and I’m conscious I’m utilizing this phrase rather a lot) iterating.

When it comes to writers who make me snort, I believe I’m fairly fundamental. Terry Pratchett or PG Wodehouse can normally do the trick. Daniel M Lavery has been making me snort since The Toast. And within the romance world, there’s at all times Lex Croucher. Their books aren’t essentially at all times mild, however they are often very, very humorous. Or no less than I believe we share an identical goofy “grew upon BBC sitcoms” humorousness.

Is there a recreation or piece of media you’re presently hooked on?

I’m unsure “hooked on” is the proper time period, however I bought briefly obsessive about the outdated BBC Merlin collection as a result of I’d put it on within the background whereas I used to be doing different issues. I’d by no means really watched it all over earlier than, and I used to be really pleasantly shocked. Though my single largest takeaway from the collection is that it…form of forgets to incorporate the bit the place Camelot is definitely a pleasant place to reside? One of many issues that’s solidly cool about it’s that it actually does do a full Arthur-and-Merlin arc ranging from the reign of Uther Pendragon (Tony Head, neatest thing within the present by miles) and ending with (spoilers for…mythology, I assume?) Arthur’s loss of life by the hands of Mordred on the Battle of Camlann.

Besides the factor is, the core dramatic rigidity of the present comes from the truth that Merlin has to fake to be a bumbling servant in order that he can information Arthur to his future, though magic is illegitimate in Camelot. And so they can’t change that dynamic, which suggests magic has to stay unlawful in Camelot even after Arthur turns into king. Which implies that the complete premise of the present, that Merlin goes to information Arthur into beginning a brand new golden age the place they don’t, y’know, actually burn individuals like him on the stake simply for being who they’re, by no means really occurs. And the present simply form of blanks this.

So sure, mildly obsessed in a really foolish manner.

You’ve had various books come out that span totally different intervals, kinds, and genres. How has your writing course of developed over time in tackling such a big selection of topics?

Erratically. I’ve at all times been the kind of particular person to leap round between concepts, tasks, and pursuits, so my very eclectic writing course of has at all times actually labored for me. I believe a method to put it is likely to be that I’ve at all times been very acutely aware that I’m the kind of one who will see a factor a couple of factor after which (as with the BBC Merlin) get very briefly obsessive about that factor for a interval of some months earlier than shifting on to one thing else. Which strains up pretty neatly with the time it takes to get a ebook written, so long as I can keep centered.

And naturally I say “the kind of particular person” however I believe in all probability that’s a reasonably frequent kind of particular person; an entire lot of individuals took up chess because of The Queen’s Gambit. My working observe is analogous, besides as a substitute of getting actually into the thought of enjoying chess, I are likely to get actually into the thought of writing a ebook about any person who performs chess. Which has the benefit of being (a) considerably simpler than really getting good at a particularly tough recreation from scratch and (b) being my precise job.

In our interview three years in the past, you talked about wanting to put in writing a ebook about “Moby Dick in area.” And, now, you’ve gotten Hell’s Heart popping out subsequent 12 months. Do you recall for those who’d already been engaged on the ebook? How lengthy do you have a tendency to sit down with concepts earlier than committing to them?

Wow, that could be a deep lower (I suppose to be truthful, it’s from your individual web site). Hell’s Coronary heart wasn’t on the desk on the time, though the core premise (it’s Moby Dick, however as a substitute of searching whales within the sea, they’re searching area monsters within the skies of Jupiter) was already there.

Then a short time later (I wish to say a 12 months, may need been a bit much less, may need been a bit extra), my agent was speaking to an editor and requested them the “what’s your dream venture” query, to which this particular person got here again with “Moby Dick as a romance” and my agent was all “properly it’s humorous it’s best to point out that.”

I’ve paraphrased barely. However solely barely.

I ought to stress that this isn’t in any respect a typical course of, for me (or—I assume—for anyone, it was fairly random). I suppose it’s illustrative in a manner, in that I do are likely to have a bunch of concepts sitting round which I’ll typically be capable to pivot into when alternatives come up, nevertheless it’s very uncommon for one thing to line up fairly as completely because it did with Hell’s Coronary heart.


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